May 31, 2005
Question Period - May 30
May 31 - Nice, pointed Question Period in Parliament yesterday with especial note to the Spin Team the taxpayers provide for the Martin Libranos, courtesy of
this post at Newsbeat1.
(Question: does anyone else have trouble loading the Parliament webpages? I'm not sure how I'd feel if it was just me ...)
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I just hit the link, popped right up.
I think you need to rethink that escape route idea.
Posted by: Jay at May 31, 2005 03:16 PM (PuNh2)
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Tape may show Martin knew about offer to Grewel
May 31 - This is all speculation just yet and, despite what we may
want to believe, it is probably best to wait until the tapes are fully translated and made available to the public,. Nevertheless, this is intriguing: but
according to CTV,
CTV News' Ottawa Bureau Chief Robert Fife reports that the Prime Minister knew of the negotiations.
According to Fife, the full four hours of transcripts of Grewal's taped conversations with a top Martin aide and Health Minister Ujjal Dosanjh show:
- Martin was ready to talk to Grewal about defecting like he did with Belinda Stronach
- Grewal was offered a government position two weeks after the vote
The transcripts could be released Tuesday. Conservative House Leader Jay Hill has said the party will be turning the tapes over to the RCMP soon.
The federal ethics commissioner Bernard Shapiro is also expected to announce Tuesday whether he will conduct an investigation into the alleged Liberal deal-making.
As Greg Weston notes in relations to
the limited mandate of the Gomery Inquiry, the RCMP has also been compromised by Adscam:
Of course, the Mounties themselves were up to their musical ride in almost $2 million of sponsorship cash, much of it hidden in a non-government bank account in Quebec. It is hard not to raise one's eyebrows that they would investigate a matter of political wrongdoing or bribery (although I think it's fair to say that most of us still respect the rank and file Mounties - it's their leaders that are suspect.)
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The limited mandate of the Gomery Inquiry may have been a very effective suppresant if the attempt for secrecy had held.
The secrecy attempt failed to stick, so vast numbers of Canadians are aware of factual evedence against the Liberals.
Evidence confessed by Liberal Officers and others out of cooperation so as to minimize upcoming criminal sentences.
There is almost zero chance that any of the evidence is misleading or false.
The Gomery Report could go into the shredder today. The irrefutable facts are recorded everywhere and are more than adequate grounds to dissolve Parliament and call an election.
Letters to the Govenor General demanding her sworn duty be carried out are now justified. 73s TonyGuitar
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Why didn't he just say no?
May 31 - Editorial in yesterday's
Toronto Sun on MP Gurmant Grewel's allegations that the Liberals tried to induce him to abstain on the budget vote -
Liberals protest too much - brings up the impropriety of their leaking to the media that Immigration Minister Joe Volpe had asked the RCMP to investigate allegations of wrongdoing by Grewal:
Grewal has denied this allegation and what's more, it was sleazy of the Liberals to smear him this way. This wasn't a case of revealing that Grewal had been charged with anything, merely that the government had requested the Mounties look into it.
Indeed, this incident has become yet another subject of controversy in this affair, with Grewal denying Liberal claims that he wanted the investigation dropped in return for abstaining on the non-confidence vote.
The tapes reveal Grewal and Murphy discussing Volpe's actions, although the Liberals insist this was only about the possibility of having Volpe say something positive about Grewal, to lessen the sting of the immigration controversy for him.
and asks the two most important questions
Even if that's true, if the Grits really believed Grewal had committed immigration improprieties, why did they talk to him at all in the first place? Why didn't they just say "no"?
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I believe that the tapes show that they did say no, or at least they didn't think they could offer him anything concrete. Why would they want him? They have enough scandals to deal with, without saddling themselves with his alleged conflict of interest and breach of trust investigations.
So, after having been turned down, he goes on a rant, hoping to gain some favour with his boss, who might try to broker a deal for him, but instead ends up shooting himself in the foot. His actions (in covertly taping his conversations), have completely demolished his credibility, which will come back to haunt him in his own enquiry.
I wonder if Harper will have mandatory wiretap sweeps before all caucus meetings from now on???
Ironic, isn't it.
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May 30, 2005
No, they don't "all" do it
May 30 - Are you tired of people saying "they all do it" whenever you talk about corruption in government? Kate has a good reply and exposes the fallacy of that particular argument in
They Are Not The Same:
... The argument that "all polititians are the same" is not only a falsehood - it is a falsehood with a hidden intent. Manufactured in an attempt to pull all those in the public service down to a lowest common denominator, it sustains the apologist's rationale to endorse "The Devil You Know". That particular devil just happens to be the soil in which corrupt governments take root.
Buying into the canard is not a product of cynicism, but an admission that one's own moral compass should be sent in for a rebuild. If we truly believes that "all politiicans are the same", then we must also concede that all citizens are "the same", held to no particular standard of honesty or integrity, and that with such low expectations of government, undeserving of better.
Indeed, and her points add dimension to another canard: People get the government they deserve. If
Canadians Ontarians believe they deserve the Liberal Party then they have assuredly earned corruption.
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Obviously they don't "all do it" or we wouldn't exist down here - if the founding fathers were simply a bunch of corrupt bastards we'd have gotten a dictatorship.
Sure, they "selfishly" wanted a better life for themselves and a better future for their children. But they also wanted it for the rest of the country, and that was the best way to ensure it for themselves and their own.
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I hope someone, a friend with the phone number, calls and suggests Kate remove the last six or so comments. No point leaving things open, although nothing actionable so far. 73s TG
Posted by: TonyGuitar at May 30, 2005 11:16 PM (rmMzv)
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Adscam went on undetected for 10 years! But that's the problem up here: people were so engaged in every twist and turn in the U.S.A. that they failed to pay attention to the state of affairs in their own country.
A really cynical person might think that the Libranos stoked the anti-American fires precisely in order to divert attention to their own wrong-doing.
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May 29, 2005
The Librano family business
May 29 - Ben Macintyre writes tongue in cheek for the
London Times on the Canadian-American and French-British rivalries in
Everybody needs bad neighbours:
In our thoroughly globalised world, the US and Canada, France and Britain, cling anachronistically to their singular, ancient rivalries. Australia and New Zealand look further afield than each other for economic comparisons; Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan do not expend energy anxiously surveying their respective sex lives. But the English Channel and the US border with Canada remain the distorting, two-way mirrors through which these neighbours perceive themselves.
He emphasizes his point that the British-French rivalry is of the sibling order by a quote from columnist Claude Imbert in
Le Point "To those French who still believe that Britain is a former Norman colony that went wrong ..." Ouch. We credit the Normans with doubling the English language and introducing chimneys but tend to believe the invaders were, in due time, anglicized, and can always view Shakespeare's account of the Battle of Agincourt in
Henry V with some pride so long as we can gather our coats and file out of the theatre thus missing the final lines on the failure of the next generation to retain what Henry V won.
Americans and Canadians will, at the drop of a hat, bring up the War of 1812 and work backward to 1776 to present our list of grievances, but that list seems downright contemporary compared to two countries who can begin theirs in 1066.
Macintyre is looking at a bigger picture set in European terms and his conclusions are interesting but he doesn't address (or perhaps even know about) the impact of Adscam on Canadian thinking and sensibilities.
The family nature of U.S. and Canadian relations is one that we tend to rush past and it has been made easier by the wholesale re-write of history which de-emphasizes British rule and influence up here in order to side-step the end of French rule at the Plains of Abraham (Canada's Culloden, if you will) which brought a reluctant step-brother into the family.
The current scandel proves the point that we can re-write history but we can't undo it. Adscam is directly related to (if only because it formed the pretext for) anglo- and franco-Canadian relations, and many of us are re-examining our former attitudes to the cause of Quebec sovereignty and recognizing that the exposure of how basely that issue was manipulated by the Liberal Party in their pursuit of one-party rule justifies Quebec outrage and, further, may have irreparably damaged prospects for a truly united Canada.
The divide-and-conquer strategy of the Libranos is being exposed, and some are beginning to realize that the implications go far beyond Quebec and permeate the very weave of today's Canada.
Every time Bombardier is granted a contract there are grumblings in Ontario, but which profit most when the contracts are awarded to Quebec: Quebeckers or those who own Bombardier? It's past time to get deeply suspicious of the quasi-Socialist pretentions of the Libranos and look closer at who gains from these contracts. If it is done in the name of national, or family, unity, then why are the kids bickering?
Once the Libranos decided that they were the natural governing party of Canada and set about to do whatever they could to assert their rule they forgot the danger that the kids might get together and compare notes. Some are noticing that one family analogy which may fit is that of a parent who purposefully incites quarrels between the adult children in order keep them bitterly divided and, in the case of a wealthy family with sizeable assets, ensures they will continue to pander to the parent in order to get what they perceive to be their rightful shares.
But Quebec and the West have had enough and, within their own families, are seriously thinking of getting out of the family business and setting up their own. Ontario is the "good eldest child" -- compliant and obediently determined to uphold the patriarch's dominance (although it privately feels that it should get more for its loyalty than the parent is alloting) and is so invested in the family business that it tends to dismiss the mutterings of those who wonder if the price of unity is worth the cost of their dignity.
Like many parents, the Libranos shrug aside the signs of rebellion, thinking that "kids will be kids," and forgetting that the blind love of children for the parent is replaced by a more critical view once the kids grow up. Should the judgement be that the parental unit makes decisions more for its own benefit than that of the family as a whole then the justification for maintaining family unity is lost.
They played a good hand when they projected Paul Martin in the role of the sympathetic "other" parent and, by seeming to overthrew Chretien's iron rule, he gained some traction by apologizing to the kids for taking them and their contributions for granted and promising to address their concerns and to treat them with more respect, fix the democratic deficit, and distribute more of the profits from the family business.
But then the family quarrel was aired in the Commons, and the Libranos retained power by marrying both the NDP and Belinda Stronach and pre-emptively gave a larger share of the profits to the kids. Martin thus, to all appearances, retained control as this placated some of them, but there is a limit to how often that strategy can be successfully employed.
He will likely take the opportunity at the next family gathering (which would be the next election) to praise the children profusely and humbly, and this will work only to the extent that the kids are denied a thorough understanding of the business accounts for the family in part because foundations which receive federal money are not accountable for how they spend that money.
There is another who wishes to be made head of the family, and some of the siblings use their distrust or dislike of Harper as a pretext for their continued support for the Libranos, but I am genuinely perplexed that, by inference, Joe Clark is somehow be seen as more likeable and charismatic than Harper.
[In contrast, President Bush has many qualities I admire but even I wouldn't call him charismatic. My support for him stems from support for his policies, so his personal appeal is not even a factor. The same can be said for Australian PM Howard.]
I also fail to see how anyone can pretend that Paul Martin has personal appeal, and I am stunned that people still worry about the "hidden agenda" of the Conservative Party when, should the allegations at the Gomery Inquiry be proven, it would seem that it is the Libranos who had the hidden agenda and it was to enrich themselves and their friends at public expense rather than anything that resembled governance.
Oddly enough, it may be the experience of living under Liberal despotism that causes fears about the Conservatives; people may believe that the CPC is as capable of forcing unpopular legislation through Parliament as the Liberals.
I hope the Conservatives use the next period to craft and state their policies. Their failure to do so is probably due more to being a new party and needing to have those kind of discussions among their members but Eastern voters are not likely to buy another pig in a poke.
Canadians are facing a dilemma of another sort though when the media projects the value of personal appeal over policies. Is it possible to maintain illusions once the blinkers are off? The polls seem to say yes, and that is the challenge for both the Libranos and the opposition parties - everywhere except Quebec, that is. They, at least, had the grace to feel insulted by the bribery, and rightly wonder how much the rest of the family truly values them when the others don't share in that outrage.
And that's the real pity.
(Links via Neale News.)
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I like your "family" analogy. Every family needs a "godfather". And this family is not unlike the one in the movie.
Some food for thought...
Chirac is in trouble in France
Schröder is in trouble in Germany
Putin is in trouble in Russia
Martin is in deep trouble in Canada
Bush was re-elected with a good majority
Howard was re-elected with a good majority
Blair was re-elected with a majority
What does this tell us about the left vs the right? those who supported the war vs those who didn't?
Posted by: Bill at May 30, 2005 12:40 AM (sUeDu)
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That was -- without a doubt -- one of the best analyses of Canadian politics I have read in a long time. I think you hit the nail on the head with regards to how the public views itself and how the Liberals' policies and attitudes towards Canada have cost us all dearly... especially in regards to the resurgence of Quebec sovereignty.
Posted by: Surecure at May 30, 2005 10:52 AM (FbxVn)
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It's tangential, but I've always thought it an interesting point of historical departure to speculate about what would've happened if Henry V had lived longer. I suspect France might've been lost a generation or two later as England bloodied itself in the Wars of the Roses, but still, the world would probably be a VERY different place. However, I can imagine Henry and Catherine producing more children than the future Henry VI, so the Wars of the Roses might have been avoided: imagine one of those children marrying into the ascendant Hapsburg dynasty and you could see the head of the House of Lancaster eventually ruling most of western Europe as King of France, King of Spain, and Holy Roman Emperor.
Posted by: Dave J at May 30, 2005 02:01 PM (CYpG7)
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Joe Clark is a very easy to like person. I met Clark personally and can see he would be an ideal neighbour. Very likable guy. A leader needs to have a little more of the operator element a la Brian Mulroony.
Harper has level a headed approach and can choose wording on his feet quite well. Some say he made an error not holding on to Ms Stronach, but the jusry is not in on that yet.
It may well be that Belinda gave Harper an utimatum and he wisely chose not to give into her demands.
I have read writings from Belinda's hand and some were very wise and earned my respect. If in fact those thoughts were really hers and not from hired 'advisors'.
Only after Ms Stronach makes some political power lever moves can we judge Mr Harper's wisdom on letting her go.
Mr. Harper and the party could make gains with Canadian Voters by outlining steps he will take to protect National revenues from theft and pilferage.
Plans to introduce Whistle-Blower legislation with real penalty power is somehting every tax paying Canadian can identify with.
Enacting law to provide Account and Audit for every Ministry and department with reporting to an independant committee and the speaker's office would be a vast improvement over the impossible general system we have now.
Paul Martin suggested this himself as an action of atonement. He aught to know what will work. He's the expert on how revenues are pilfered.
Yes, the party that can outline to voters how to secure public revenues is the party who can strike a common chord and gain real public support.
73s TG
Posted by: TonyGuitar at May 31, 2005 12:49 AM (rmMzv)
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Sookie, one of the problems here in Toronto is that so many people do not realize how deeply angry Quebeckers and Westerners are.
The fury in Quebec is such that I haven't witnessed in all my years here, and it's impossible not to take their side in all this because they are clearly the injured party.
Those of us who actually watched the testimony - particularly that of Jean Brault and Jacques Corriveau - were shocked much more than the sound bites and printed coverage in the press could convey.
The failure by the minority government to call an election only entrenched the anger and alientation.
Harper is against separation of both Quebec and the West, but the situation is spiraling rapidly out of control and I wouldn't be surprised if the West and Quebec held refendums at the same time.
On your first point, about responsibility, that word can mean different things. If you mean the kind of responsbility parents have for children and we all have for those who are handicapped, I think Harper understands that kind of responsbility fully.
I believe we have a responsibility to give everyone an even break, and not allow skin colour, religion or country of origin form the basis of our evaluation of them, much less be used against them.
But I believe everyone has responsibilities too, not the least of which is to be responsbile for themselves and their actions.
On Homolka, I am sickened by her being allowed to go free and by the media's fascination with her. I don't know how the families of her victims can bear all this.
Somebody characterized the coverage as "murder porn" and it fits.
If nothing else, though, it taught us all that we must never, ever, assume that the female partner of a vicious man is necessarily a victim.
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Noble Gestures
May 29 - Emergency at work - I was called in this evening* and just got home.
Maz2 and Tony kept the ball rolling these last few days (thanks!) and Andrew Coyne has a post has with a great title: It's a vast right-wing punditocracy! (of course it is) The post has some interesting links on the allegations that members of the Conservative Party were offered inducements to abstain or be absent for the Real and Official Non-Confidence Vote last week.
I particularly like the first one from the Vancouver Sun (link no good unless you have a subscription) in which Arthur Schafer, director of the Centre for Professional and Applied Ethics, scores a grand-slam by making what to my mind is the critical point about using patronage appointments as a form of bribery:
"In my view, the latter is every bit as serious as the former. Perhaps more serious, since the harm to Canada may last longer and be more serious than the 'mere' loss of public money."
Having an elected Senate would be my first choice for Parliamentary reform. Ya hear that, Belinda?
Mark the calandar on this: we learned that Man of Culture Jacques Corriveau is into making Noble Gestures which is why he put 4 volunteers for the Liberal Party on his payroll even though they did no work for him:
Corriveau said he hired Serge Gosselin at his firm Pluridesign in 1999 and paid him $55,000 -- half of that for Liberal-related work.
Pluridesign's financial statements show Corriveau put three other Liberal staffers on his payroll after the 1997 election, paying them $86,509 from 1998 to 2000.
He said he made the backdoor donations to the Grits at the request of ex-Quebec party head Michel Beliveau, adding he felt obliged to after billing $1 million for printing election signs.
I can see why he might feel indebted to the Liberal Party.
I am so very happy that the medical condition which had prevented him from recollecting certain things has improved and am hopeful he will be able to remember even more things.
*Make that yesterday evening, i.e, Saturday evening.
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http://www.westernstandard.blogs.com
Go to post/comments: governance 101. In, particular, read the message from ET; not an alien.
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God Bless America.
Posted by: maz2 at May 29, 2005 11:50 AM (gVBzV)
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7. Tim Belford: Short Takes On Life
Tim Belford is host of Quebec A.M.—CBC Radio’s popular English- language morning show (91.7 FM, 6-9, Mon.-Fri). He also is said to know a thing or three about wine.
Posted 05.23.05
Quebec City
TIM BELFORD
Politics: ItÂ’s about stuffing envelopes, eh?
The old adage that people who live in glass houses shouldnÂ’t throw stones has come back to me a lot lately.
ItÂ’s one of the reasons IÂ’ve been pretty muted in my criticism of the parade of Liberal bagmen and ad types that have kept the Gomery Commission on the front pages.
You see, IÂ’ve been there.
ThatÂ’s right. Much to my shame I have to confess IÂ’ve been on the receiving end of the cash-stuffed liberal envelope.
IÂ’ve been part of the sleeze. I wallowed in the mud with the best of them.
And before the Gomery Commission comes looking for me IÂ’ve decided to sing like a bird, or at least like Jean Brault.
http://www.tomifobia.com/belford/stuffing_envelopes.shtml
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Cash $500.00 in brown envelope in 1970.
From the Liberal$.
Could this confession mean that millions of Canadians are complicit/involved in outright bribery for votes and other electoral crimes? Could this guilt be a reason for their rejection of Stephen HarperÂ’s message?
Veritas odit moras. (Seneca) Truth hates delay.
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Over at www.westernstandard.blogs.com:
It's 'toon time:
See: the Viagra Defense.
The first commenter is a Liberal.
Posted by: maz2 at May 29, 2005 08:13 PM (hi8to)
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Drop the T. Pundiocracy. At least it is pronouncable. OK, I really am a poor speller, but Punditocracy only makes it on paper. Otherwise Andrew seems a step ahead. 73s TonyGuitar
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May 27, 2005
Poundmaker support (updated)
May 27 - Darcey has some updates on the Poundmaker protest:
a press release from the Poundmaker Working Group and
organizing a grocery run.
Ian Lance is making that grocery run Saturday (tomorrow) and is collecting funds through his Pay-Pal account.
Look, we've complained on this site (as well as others) as to how the outrage over corruption in Ottawa has been largely limited to sighs and laments, but members of the Poundmaker Working Group are not content to wring their hands and wish somebody (else) would do something about corruption in their own community -- they have engaged in an act of civil disobedience because, having already reached their tipping point, they have taken the initiative to push their point home.
Ian has issued a compelling call to support this action in Fighting Corruption Our Way. Is their struggle really that separate from what we've been so angry about? I don't think so.
May 29 - 2:36: Lance reports and writes of something fundamental that he found at the protest and in the Poundmaker Working Group. Great post.
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Thanks, Debbye! Just one correction - it's actually Lance, who lives much closer than I do to Poundmaker, that is doing the actual grocery run
So far, we've collected about $500.00 or so. Which seems like a lot, but groceries for at least 30 people.. that will last for only a couple of days.
Posted by: Ian Scott at May 27, 2005 06:05 PM (KiTgm)
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I support your adventure and wish you al well but am on Vancouver Island so out of reach. Anyway only one comment here and I know that's not allowed so food for thought...
Do you really think Auditor General Fraser is a hero?
With cautious respect. Is the Auditor General office and staff functioning properly? How come it took over ten years to get these blatant excesses looked at? And on that huge budget too.
I donÂ’t see how the Auditor General could have contained knowledge of this sprawling mess. This is just a measure of Liberal repentance and timely damage control.
Lets get something constructive done, we have to demand Whistle Blower Protection law with real TEETH. Not wishy-washy ‘should dos’ as Fraser suggests.
Allan Cutler blew the whistle on Guite over ten years ago. That should have saved us millions. Instead, Cutler was sacked. What knuckle dragging stupidity.
Martin promised to enact independent Ministry and department Account & Audit. He's an expert on how to stop pilfering. Trouble is he has to be forced to keep any promise he makes.
He made that promise during his CBCTV Grovel speech. It will cut off the LiberalÂ’s mad money somewhat, but any sacrifice is ok to hold onto power.
Yet, I suggest Martin will hope we apathetics forget the promise he made about account and audit. LetÂ’s get hard law enacted now! Then, no matter who is in power, our National Revenues will remain fairly secure.
73s TonyGuitar at bendgovernment.blogspot.com
This whole farce has gone on long enough, donÂ’t you think. When are real Canadians going to organize and do something concrete about this mess?
Posted by: TonyGuitar at May 28, 2005 05:02 PM (rmMzv)
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May 25, 2005
PM's aide Gaetano Manganiello testifies before Gomery
May 25 -
PMO staffer says sponsorship firm paid him $25,000 for Liberal work:
An aide in Prime Minister Paul Martin's office told the sponsorship inquiry Wednesday he was paid $28,000 under the table to work for the Liberals in the late 1990s.
Gaetano Manganiello, who is on a paid leave of absence from his job as a media officer in the PMO, said he worked off the books as a party logistics specialist in 1998 and 1999. He said the then-boss of the party's Quebec wing, Benoit Corbeil, approached him at the Montreal headquarters and said the party was in dire financial straights.
Corbeil said the party could no longer afford his salary but explained the Pluri Design graphic firm, owned by Jean Chretien's friend Jacques Corriveau, could step in to pay him, Manganiello testified.
"I was informed by Mr. Corbeil that Pluri Design would pay my salary but I would continue working at the Liberal party," Manganiello told the inquiry, saying he was on the firm's payroll for nine months.
"He (Corbeil) didn't tell me why, but in all fairness, I didn't ask why either."
Gomery's comments as to what has and has not been established about Brault's allegations of illegal contributions are also in the article.
(Via Neale News.)
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Even the NY Times ... oh, the infamy
May 25 - Master Meriadoc could lecture us well on the virtues of being unnoticed ... at least for a short period of time.
Was Canada Just Too Good to Be True?.
Actually, it's a pretty good article but either he doesn't know about or chooses to ignore some troubling questions about the procrastination of the Liberal Party in allowing the non-confidence vote or the thoughts in the minds of some Westeners and Quebeckers.
Or maybe he just hadn't read the opening paragraphs of this.
Or, more significantly, this Lorrie Goldstein column that takes a pretty close look at the Grewal-Murphy tape and Insta!Stronach Cabinet post.
May 29 - Today's editorial in the Toronto Sun, Can't we take a little criticism? says that Canadians should be thanking Krauss; it seems that Clifford Krauss has been slammed for his article in the NY Times for puncturing some of Canada's illusions about itself.
We hope Clifford Krauss is reading this, because after the week he's had, he deserves a thank-you.
The New York Times' Canadian correspondent filed a stinging dispatch from Toronto last week that predictably riled many Canucks -- because, we submit, it was true.
I must read the wrong papers, because I didn't know there was hostility to the article. But still, the
NY Times has had a few articles about Canada since the publication ban on Jean Brault testimony was lifted that focused on Adscam and the Liberal Party's manipulations to stay in power, and I am somewhat surprised that the latest item from Krauss was received with more outrage up here than his previous report (noted
here) and the op-ed by Canadian David Frum which appeared in the
NY Times (and noted in the same link) which were far more critical by what they implied.
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An excellent article, especially this quote; "Of course, quite a few nations have an embellished sense of righteousness, not least among them, many would say, Canada's southern neighbor."
Posted by: Flanstein at May 25, 2005 04:17 PM (XYwW8)
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For an alternative view, there's the latest eruption from Mt. Simpson. Seems there's this rogue opposition MP running around trapping innocent chiefs of staff into exquisitely prudent abstractions. For four hours. Or,
equally plausible to an outsider, that he was indeed sniffing around, visiting cabinet ministers, opening up lines of communication for a switch, hoping to secure something then or later for himself and/or his wife.
http://www.andrewcoyne.com
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His latest column is up; link provided; an excellent political essay. Compare it to Mr. Simpson (G&M spavined-hackneyed nag; his best cliche is "thin gruel". He has not written an original thought since his last thank-you card to Santy Claus 68 years ago).
Support Andre Coyne vs. the Liberals who want us to forget the tapes of four hours long.
Bloggers, please keep it up top.
AC Coyne is a worthy. Bravo.
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Flanstein, Krauss was writing in American, not Canadian, and there is a difference. There is no U.S. parallel to the gossipy nature of the Canadian media about American national issues because we such to be inpolite and properly falls under the "none of our business" category.
Ask yourself: how often do mainstream U.S. publications criticize or air the dirty laundry of other countries? Krauss's article contains absolutely no international affairs content; that's a clue.
I too noticed that Krauss inserted some "even-handed treatment" in his article but again, you'd have to read it in American to pick up on what was not said and thus implicitly communicated.
As I said: better when Canada was unnoticed (but that too should be read in American.)
Maz2, fear not! Read the Goldstein article and go "hmmm."
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Hmmm.
BTW, if you were wondering why Murphy isn't going after CTV or the Globe and Mail, the following may be of interest:
Step 1: Google: "ivan fecan" ctv globe
Step 2: Google: "ivan fecan" "paul martin"
Step 3: Pour very large darnk.
Just a thought
Posted by: Tony at May 25, 2005 09:51 PM (tjFjH)
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I caught this one two - Back last November after the election the NYT was praising Canada. Now this. The stabbing buggers!
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"There is no U.S. parallel to the gossipy nature of the Canadian media about American national issues because we such to be inpolite and properly falls under the "none of our business" category."
Ahem, most American media don't comment on foreign affairs because they don't believe that anything that happens outside their country is important (unless America is involved in which case it becomes VERY important)- not because they are polite.
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Once again more ammunition that "ought" to be used by the RCMP in investigating the levels of corruption and to what levels the Liberals will go to hold onto their power.
The question that remains to be answered is, will the RCMP actually investigate?
Who has the authority to order/ask the RCMP to investigate these charges?
Will that person/persons please step forward and demand an investigation?
I really don't care what the outcome of the investigation is (VBEG), lets get the thing started!
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"Who has the authority to order/ask the RCMP to investigate these charges?"
Don;t forget "Who has the ability to order the RCMP to forget the afore-mentioned investigation or cover up the results?
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May 25 - I've had some things on my mind today, like the dissolution of Confederation and moronic pilots, so I needed a really good laugh.
Ask, and it shall be given: Parrish ponders return to Liberal party:
Independent MP Carolyn Parrish says Prime Minister Paul Martin has left the door open for her to return to the Liberal fold.
The Toronto Star reports that the suggestion came from the prime minister himself last Thursday, after she voted in favour of passing the government's budget in a crucial confidence vote.
"He gave me a big hug and a kiss," Parrish told the Star.
She says a colleague asked if it wasn't time for Parrish to return to caucus, and Martin said: "Whenever, you're ready," according to Parrish.
Do you think I could find anyone to take my bet? Not a one. My life sucks.
(Via Neale News.)
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Hey, if Martin can do business with Stronach, Parish would be a 'gimmee'.
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The Spirit of '05
May 24 - 11:29: The spirit of Tom Paine is alive and well in Canada. Walsingham has written forcefully and eloquently that
The Tipping Point has been reached in Canada and concluded that the only option remaining is to dissolve this confederation.
Will a “spirit of ‘05” now arise here? I believe it is already stirring. The Liberals, with much of Ontario in dumb connivance, have sown the seeds. They do not understand what they have set irretrievably in motion. It is far beyond their sphere of recognition to see that far from saving Canada, they have destroyed it. A Canada worth preserving might just have been revived had this government fallen. But the very factors and forces that prevented that fall have now pointed the future in a very different direction. And I say: so be it. The chasm has been crossed. The tipping point has been reached.
There is more, so very much more, so read the whole thing as well as the comments.
"The Tipping Point" may well take its rightful place beside the pamphlet "Common Sense" and ought to be spread from browser to browser by all who believe in liberty.
(Via Keith, who adds some thoughts in his post.)
May 25 - 7:55 - Despite the bravado in my posted words above, I still feel as though I am in mourning. I felt this way once before: on Sept. 11 (it's an American-sourced feeling.) The logic of Walsingham's post is inescapable, though, and I am somewhat comforted by these words from Occam's Carbuncle if only because he too sees the abyss:
There comes a time, however, when you realize that the apparent complexities of life, while important to our understanding of events, are not what should ultimately speak to us, are not matters upon which to base our fundamental ideas about right and wrong, about what is good or ill for ourselves and our society. The simplest of notions, ones like liberty, democracy, pride, dignity, loyalty, are the ones that must shape our actions. It is precisely these simple ideas that increasingly become meaningless as this party and that interest work to obscure them to their own profit. Are we utterly lost, as Walsingham suggests? Is this the time when Canada, like a reluctant phoenix, immolates itself, and we are left to await whatever incarnation may rise from the ashes? I can't bring myself to say yes. I've urged others to say no. I want to say no. I can't say that either. If you think this is all rather silly and overwrought, then I am sorry for you. Things matter, or they do not.
I found myself humming
The Maple Leaf Forever! at work this morning. I'm not sure I want to examine
that too closely.
Oh Canada, how much I grieve for thee.
I'm bumping this post up. Walsingham must be read (and Maz2's comment.) I'm even adding a quote of my own:
These are the times that try men's souls. (It's a quote and I refuse to de-gender it.)
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Give Me Liberty Or Give Me Death
It is in vain, sir, to extentuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace--but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!
Patrick Henry March 23, 1775
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Walsingham has informed me that he will follow-up with another. Look for part II in the near future.
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Kroll Report
May 24 - The Kroll Report (from the Adscam auditors) can be viewed
here.
May 25 - 06:50 - There's a discussion about the future of the Maritime provinces should confederation collapse in the comments well worth reading. Feel free to join in.
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You asked back in the "break up of Canada" thread what I thought what might happen in the Maritimes if/when Canada starts to come apart -- since that one's sliding down the page I thought I'd offer my thoughts here.
So, how the Maritimes might go if/when Canada comes apart -- I have a tough time figuring it out myself. There are good, honest, hard-working people here, who get sick and tired of being dumped on by the rest of Canada, called lazy, destitute, welfare bums, etc. I myself am working in a successful engineering start-up firm that has grown from 4 to 20 people in just over two years. No NDP supporters in our group, let me tell you -- and yet, my own boss harbours those same "scary Conservative" thoughts that too many Ontarians do. Halifax is one of the most successful cities in the region yet it's afflicted with a malaise of NDP voting syndrome right now, at both the federal and provincial levels. I really can't explain the dichotomy.
Then there's the other side of the coin, the friends I know who work in the woods four months a year and draw pogey the other eight while playing hockey five times a week all winter. These are the bums, the good-for-nothing leeches who make the rest of us look bad. They may have no love for Quebec, but cut them off from that federal trough and I'm not sure they'll survive. As such, preserving the status quo will be all-important to them.
I think at the separation, the leeches among us will beg not to be cut loose, and what's left of the federal government will play along for a while -- until Ontario decides we're not worth the bother and cuts us loose. Then we honest ones will have to pick this region up by our bootstraps. I have no illusions that it won't hurt, and probably hurt bad, for a while, but in the end we just might be the better for it. Joining the USA will not happen, period. I doubt they'd even have us. We'd end up as some sort of not-quite-first-world state, the three provinces merged into one, I think (I suspect Newfoundland would go it alone if it came to that).
Oh, one last thought, on a tangent: surveying the field of possible successors to Paul Martin, I think the best candidate out there, and by a wide margin, is former NB premier and current US Ambassador Frank McKenna. He's a straight talker who keeps his word and gets things done. His very first promise when he came to power in 1987 was that he would serve no more than ten years -- and come 1997, he stepped down, even though he was still popular and had two years left in his term. He accepted no excuses about NB's small size or have-not status when working tirelessly to build the province's economy and sell the province as an environment for business. I don't recall any major scandals through his term, save the TCH toll highway deal right toward the end that ended up undoing the Liberals in 1999 (it was announced very quickly one summer out of backroom negotiations with a construction firm headed by a former Liberal cabinet minister -- the Tories killed the tolls once they took office. Every now & then the Liberals try to play up the contract penalties the Tories had to pay but it doesn't gain any traction). Give him the Liberal party, let him rebuild it from the ground up, and he can make it into something worthy of respect. I might even vote for such a party. If Canada survives long enough, that is.
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Ian in NS,
The only problem I have with your good comment is that, even though you do understand and recognize the damage the Liberal Party has done to everyone in Canada, you still say you would vote Liberal if there is a change in their leadership. A change in the leadership will do nothing. Don't you understand? The problem isn't Martin, although he's the front man. The problem is the few very rich people who are controlling the Liberal Party.
In addition, the RCMP said in 2000, and again a year or two later, that they were very concerned that the mob was taking over the government. In my opinion that has largely happened. Witness Gomery for instance. How may people in the Maritimes even care about Gomery? I don't know because I'm not there, but I understand not many.
We don't need a change in the Liberal Party leadership. We need a change in the government. And then, when that happens, we need three or four inquiries with teeth to help put a lot of these criminals, and that is what I believe they are, in jail. A change in the Liberal Party leadership would just be business as usual.
Why are all you people so unwilling to give the Conservatives a chance? You seem very enlightened but yet you'd still vote Liberal if they elected a new leader even after all they've done to Canada. It's things like this that will guarantee the separation of Alberta, with BC, Saskatchewan and Manitoba in all likelihood following. With the four western provinces out of Canada where is all the money the federal government sends to the Maritimes each year going to come from?
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John, I think I understand where Ian is coming from. I gave some consideration to supporting Sen. Joe Lieberman's campaign last spring but the antics of the rest of the Democrats caused deep concerns as who he would need to appoint to Cabinet should he win the presidency so I chose to stick with Bush -- I trusted him and the members of his Cabinet (although it took me awhile to warm up to Ashcroft and Minetta.)
My break with tradition (my family has voted Democrat since JFK) came from the consciousness that my country is at war, though, which is a far different mindset than those in the Maritimes likely have.
But, and this is what irreversibly tips the scales, I am cannot believe that people here in Ontario are not as traumatized by the Nine Days as are many of us, and, if I'm reading between the lines rightly, I gather than those in the Maritimes too are not fully cognizant of the implications of what has actually happened.
My American brain keeps screaming "how can they not be aware of all this?" You've probably read comments by Americans here who are trying to be polite but just don't understand why the people of this country are not up in arms (of the pitchfork and torch variety, that is, or at least an orange scarf or two!)
I too cannot grasp this. I cannot grasp how proud Canadians can ignore these last two weeks and although I've been trying very hard to temper my words I am in turmoil.
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Debbye,
I too am simply aghast at the complete (apparent) lack of outrage in the Canadian populace.
I can't even fathom how people can still support the Liberal Party at the levels they are polling at in the face of such massive corruption (and, in the opinion of some, abandonment of proper parliamentry practice).
The apathy of my fellow Canadians to this is, in my opinion, unconscionable. It does speak to how ingrained the Liberal Party has made itself in many people's minds that in the face of tyranny the people still support the tyrant.
Cheers,
Keith.
Posted by: Keith Young at May 25, 2005 10:09 AM (D8Hiv)
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Debbye,
There is no excuse for ignorance in this day and age. If people choose to live in ignorance they will get what they deserve. It is all too easy to begin accepting handouts and then fear losing them. But I have no patience.
I am a proud Canadian. I lost three uncles in WWII, two of them giving the French back their country. The allies persevered and gave us a free and proud country. My uncles did not die for the country Canada has become.
I have never applied for nor accepted welfare, UI or a government grant of any type. I am almost 67 years old. My wife and I raised three children and bought or built two homes during the first 26 years or our marriage. It wasn't easy. I was an artist and artists, at least young ones starting out, are not known to be rich. But we made in on income from the sale of my work. We had no other income for most of those years.
I did this knowing that many other artists, who I was competing with for sales, were living from government grant to government grant. They had mastered the ability to live with one hand out in front of them all the time. But I didn't let that bother me. I was too busy making a living.
I have visited the Maritimes and Quebec several times, I did a series of 19 paintings on the Eastern Townships of Quebec for a collector. I understand this area of Canada. There are many proud and industrious Canadians from the Maritimes and Quebec. Just not enough in my opinion. I could also say much the same about BC, where I presently live.
In any case, I have no patience with ignorance anymore. I could go on...
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Ian in N.S.:
Then there's the other side of the coin, the
friends I know who work in the woods four
months a year and draw pogey the other eight
while playing hocky five times a week all
winter. These are the bums, the good-for-
nothing leeches who make the rest of us look
bad. . . .
ut them off from that federal
trough and I'm not sure they'll survive.
Not to worry, Ian. Such folk are *very* practical, and will effectively turn to when they get cold or hungry, or their children do. A note from the U.S. experience: In the 1990s, the mean and eevial Republican Congress enacted a welfare reform, limiting lifetime welfare grants to a maximumof five years for able-bodied recipients. Contrary to predictions, the sky did NOT fall, and the welfare rolls have stabilized at a level 50% below their previous size.
Lovingkindness,
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John, it is not so much a change in the leadership of the Liberal party (and I should've expanded on that point -- which I will in a minute) -- it is a change in the leadership of this country AWAY FROM A CENTRAL CANADIAN. For over thirty-five years this country has been led by an unbroken string of central Canadians -- Pearson, Trudeau, Mulroney, Chretien, Martin (Clark, Turner, and Campbell don't count for spit) -- and our society has gone ever further down its spiralling descent to this point. Mulroney was the only one who even partly grasped what was happening (the Liberals of course are stuck in permanent denial), and tried to at least bring us some constitutional peace. Given the dismal track record of Ontario and Quebec prime ministers, we BADLY need leadership from outside the centre to force a new perspective into the national discussion. McKenna is the only name from this end of the country that's up to the task in my view (I like Bernard Lord but I'm not yet convinced he's national material; nobody from NS, PEI, or NL rates as far as I'm concerned, and I am bitterly disappointed that John Hamm equivocated and Danny Williams actively pressured for passage of the Liberal budget).
As for my stance on McKenna, I should've added that the Liberal party that McKenna would have to take over for me to consider it would be one razed to the ground in a 1993-style Tory wipeout, the entire leadership, and especially the Quebec & Ontario wings, purged, and rebuilt from the ground up by McKenna. If you just lopped off the head of today's poisonous snake and replaced it with McKenna, no, that wouldn't be enough.
And I am a card-carrying Conservative. I can see all too clearly what this country's coming to, and that soundly defeating the Liberals at the next election, 1993 style, may be the only hope for keeping Canada together. Given Ontario's dismal track record in the last three federal elections, however (and, yes, the polling out here), I don't hold out much hope for that outcome.
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Crunching some Adscam numbers
May 24 - Angry in the Great White North has a breakdown of some of the numbers that came out of today's session of the Gomery Inquiry and has a
Sample of how the government manages our money:
Out of a total of $46.32 million:
$460,000, or 1%, went to sponsorship
$8.34 million, or 18%, went to actual work done
$26 million, or 56%, went to "unrelated or unknown parties"
$11.52 million, or 25%, was unspent or the invoices were not found
"Not found." Went to "unrelated or unknown parties."
I have no words.
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No words? How 'bout
"We find the defendants guilty, Your Honor!"
Unbefrickinleivable.
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Inadequate!
How high does the corruption go?
Gomery said yesterday that the costs of the Inquiry would be much lower if the witnesses would just tell the truth. That said volumes to me.
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May 24 - From Darcey of
Dust My Broom with an
update on the the protest by the Poundmaker Working Group who are remaining in the offices of Chief Ted Antoine and the Council until new elections are called. Also he's got more background
here and a request for support
here which asks for letters of support, supplies and phone cards.
If you're not aware of what has been happening, you can read all Darcey's posts on the Poundmaker protest by going here and scrolling down.
Maybe you think it's none of our business? Publius puts it well: "Functioning along roughly the same mental lines that allowed generations of wife beaters to remain protected under the guise "family unity," so the new imperialists have been allowed to get away with their crimes." (Read the post.)
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I wish the people of Canada had half as much intestinal fortitude as these people are showing.
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Exactly the shame I feel, John.
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May 24 - The session of the Gomery Inquiry currently being aired on CPAC is (at least partially - it's not over yet) in English ... transcript should be available tonight
here.
From Newsbeat 1:
Sponsorship loss may be an additional $100 million (CTV says it would now total $355 million)
Groupaction Marketing, which allegedly funded the federal Liberals under the table for years, issued $406,000 in cheques that could have been converted to cash, says a report tabled at the Gomery inquiry Tuesday and,
Kroll also attached a dollar figure to all contributions to the Liberals - registered and unregistered - heard during testimony at the inquiry.
The auditors said $768,000 was donated above board to the party and added, "if the amounts identified by Mr. Brault as payments for a political purpose are included, this amount rises to $2.5 million."
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Documents previously tabled at the inquiry indicate Brault paid the $430,000 to the Pluri Design firm owned by graphic designer Jacques Corriveau, a friend of former prime minister Jean Chretien. Brault has said Corriveau told him the money was destined for the Liberals.
Kroll, while not backing the claim, said "the available documentation does not indicate what services, if any, were provided by PluriDesign to Groupaction for the $430,370 it received."
The auditors said they requested Corriveau's bank statements from 1994 to 1999, along with other financial data, but that the information was "not available for our review."
Coffin may plead guilty.
Gagliano loses suit - Gomery stays. As for Chretien,
If Chretien wins a favourable court ruling, it could block Gomery from delivering two reports planned for the end of the year.
And the elections Martin promised were for after the report was issued.
During the break, you might want to read today's editorial in the Toronto Sun.
Unrelated to Adscam but good nonetheless, Paul Jackson gives some good advice to the "spoiled brats of the entertainment world."
15:55 - Session is back on.
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May 24 - If you read Bill Strong's post on the
Royal Commonwealth Society of Toronto yesterday you might want to make a return visit. Looks as though whoever is behind bloc-Harper.com might be trying to cover some tracks ... lucky thing
Kate grabbed a screenshot yesterday.
Curiouser and curiouser.
Private gripe: deleted. I just won't sleep. Ever.
16:45 Neale News is linking to Bill's site and has before and after screenshots of the Whois page for blocharper.com. The first shows the Royal Commonwealth Society of Toronto Foundation as owners of the blocharper.com domain name, and the second shows the Freedom International Association as the owner. Both versions have the same Newmarket address, phone and fax numbers and show Sinclair Stevens as the webmaster and technical contact but the second has different email addresses for him.
Bill has a new post up here.
I don't know that anything illegal is going on, but the overnight change of who is listed as owning the domain name seems to imply that somebody else thinks it is, to say the least, indiscreet for the Royal Commonwealth Society of Toronto Foundation to own a domain name which makes clear it's intention to remove the leader of the Official - and Loyal - Opposition.
This is the website for Freedom International (link from the post on this issue at Colbert's Comments.)
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Note: G-G's website is called bloc-harper.com.
Suggestion: Set up a blog named: harper-bloc.com!!!!
Foul their nest; play mean and lean. The Librano$ & their thugs respect only one principle: Power, and the methods used to keep/retain power.
Power to the bloggers!!!!
(This one no cando; not IT savvy.)
Posted by: maz2 at May 24, 2005 02:59 PM (Sc7LV)
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Better yet, blocharper.com is available - could be easily mistaken for bloc-harper.com
Posted by: Bill at May 24, 2005 06:08 PM (w8NPI)
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Oops. I should have checked whois.net first - Sinclair owns blocharper.com and bloc-harper.com
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May 24 - The weight of the Liberal Party's notion
of how to best protect their own interests good governance daily becomes more unbearable. The latest:
Taxpayers foot $1M bill for Liberals' sponsorship 'war room' for a secret team that monitors the Gomery Inquiry and preps the Prime Minister for questions that might be raised in the House of Commons:
Documents obtained by the Citizen through the Access to Information Act reveal that the rapid-response war room, which is in almost daily contact with the Prime Minister's Office and the government's top bureaucrat, Alex Himelfarb, operates out of the Privy Council Office.
The cost of the strategic office, which does everything from preparing answers for question period in the House of Commons to keeping the Prime Minister's Office abreast of testimony at the inquiry, covers the salaries of staff and expenses.
The war room and its cost came to light on the heels of last week's complaints from Justice John Gomery about officials exaggerating the cost of his inquiry.
Officials at the commission looking into the sponsorship scandal say the total cost of the actual inquiry will come in under $32 million. Judge Gomery said government officials have "leaked" to the media that it is costing departments another $40 million to cover costs at four key departments, including the Privy Council Office. "It's an exaggeration and it's twisting reality," Judge Gomery said last week.
Revelations from the inquiry, which is digging into the $250-million sponsorship scheme, forced the Liberals to set aside $750,000 in a trust fund to pay back money improperly obtained by the party.
One memo to Mr. Himelfarb indicates the strategy office was set up almost immediately after the Martin government launched the inquiry in February 2004 upon the release of Auditor General Sheila Fraser's damning report on the sponsorship program.
Dated Feb. 18, 2004, the memo describes "the intergovernmental co-ordination group" being set up in the PCO, the nerve centre of the federal government, under the proposed direction of bureaucrat Guy McKenzie. However, the summary and attachments are mostly blanked out, under section 23 of the Access to Information Act, due to "solicitor/client privilege."
The office's operating budget now totals $1,068,000 after its first-year budget of $534,000 in 2004-05 was renewed for a second year, according to Hali Gernon of the PCO.
Remember when I expressed
some sympathy for why the Conservative Party might not want to release the Grewal-Murphy tape to the RCMP? Read this next bit:
Ms. Gernon said the office has a small staff of about "four or five" employees and since June 2004 has been under the direction of lawyer Ursula Menke, the former deputy commissioner of the Canadian Coast Guard and inspector general of the Canadian Security Intelligence Service.
The team will continue to operate until the Inquiry concludes and "until the end of the fiscal year to allow any required followup to the inquiry."
Judge Gomery has made it clear he doesn't appreciate the Martin government adding its hidden costs to his overall budget. In an exchange with an ad executive, the judge said: "What they did was ... put together the fees of everyone in the Justice Department that worked on the file, the photocopies they made at the PCO and God knows what other expenses that were totally beyond the commission's control."
Bookkeeping, Librano style. Judge Gomery knows it well.
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They'd rather switch and fight
May 24 - Their numbers are growing:
Harper liberals
(Thanks, maz2.)
Oh, and bonus points for those who get the reference in the post title.)
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National Post:
Liberals have set up a "war room" to fight back at news from Gomery Inquiry.
At Canadian taxpayers' expense.
Your dollars are paying for this.
What are you going to do about it?
Posted by: maz2 at May 24, 2005 09:51 AM (TbgcZ)
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Cig ad - Tareyton.
What do I win? Will I have to go to a Canadian restaurant to collect it in an envelope?
Posted by: Jay at May 24, 2005 11:40 AM (PuNh2)
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small dead animals
Comments: Gomery Roundup
Report ready to rock Adscam
STEPHANIE RUBEC, SUN OTTAWA BUREAU
OTTAWA -- They've tracked down Saddam Hussein's money and were tasked to clean up the Enron scandal - now they're ready to blow the lid off Adscam.
Internationally renowned forensic accounting firm Kroll Lindquist Avey is expected to shake the foundations of Justice John Gomery's inquiry today with a detailed report on whether pockets were lined in the sponsorship scandal.
The Kroll report is expected to follow the money trail from federal coffers to the Liberal-friendly ad firms and possibly into the wallets of Grit organizers.
The findings are expected to make more waves than any other testimony before Gomery and have been kept under such tight wraps that not even a kernel of information has leaked out.
Kroll has built its reputation on keeping a tight lid on its reports and investigations until they are released by their clients.
For almost a year Kroll investigators have been following the $250-million money trail from the embattled sponsorship program, tracking personal and business bank account activities and money exchanges.
More at Edmonton Sun. Go Edmonton.
Let's rock and roll!
Jail House Rock, for the Librano$.
One for the money, two for the Gomery Inquiry.
Go, John Gomery.
Maddas Saddam's money? In Canada? Yessiree, Bub.
Ask PM Payola Martin & Maurice Strong. They will not tell. We shall know: Veritas odit moras. Truth hates delay. (Seneca).
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Posted by: maz2 at May 24, 2005 11:46 AM (1XrKS)
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Jay, your reward is that I won't tell anyone how old you (and I) are.
I should put up a post listing some old TV commercial slogans that grabbed national attention.
Maz2, waiting for that report is why I haven't been able to sleep! I feel like a whiney kid: "Are we there yet?" I'm going to be so dead tonight.
Posted by: Debbye at May 24, 2005 02:13 PM (WKkzE)
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Oh crap, you've figured out I'm too young to be listening to cigarette commercials?
Wow, I guess I'm banned now or something.
Time for a tantrum.
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The perseverence of Stephan Hachemi
Zahra Kazemi
May 24 - The fruitlessness of soft power has come to be symbolized by one outstanding example: the failure to achieve justice for Montreal photojournalist Zahra Kazemi, who was murdered on or about July 11, 2003, in an Iranian prison for the unspeakable crime of photographing a vigil outside Evin Prison - the very prison in which she would later be tortured and killed.
Those of us who recognized immediately that Kazemi's death was linked to the struggle for democracy in Iran hoped - briefly - that the Canadian government would, by pressing Iran for answers to Kazemi's death, be able to assist their struggle. We were disappointed, because the Canadian government seemed to do more to protect the Iranian mullocracy than a Canadian citizen.
Their calumny was further revealed by later reports that she was defiant in prison and was subjected to unspeakable torture, but we did not get this information from the government which should have pressed the investigation but from British, American and Canadian news sources.
The lethargic response by the Canadian government, first by accepting the dubious explanation of the Iranian government and then by dithering, delaying, and finally mildly protesting was sharply challenged by the news media in Canada, which did not allow the story to die, and by Kazemi's son, Stephan Hachemi.
Coincidentally, 2 months after Jean Chretien stepped down as PM Khazakhstan News reported that he had been named special adviser to the board of directors of Calgary-based PetroKazakhstan, and the same item mentions a lucrative swap arrangement with Iranian oil refineries (read relevant excerpts here.)
Kazemi's son wrote a scathing letter to the National Post which can be read here.
And then there is this: The Canadian ambassador to Iran has been recalled twice as a response to Iran's failure to achieve justice for Kazemi, but relations with Iran are not only friendly but downright cozy - so cozy that the Canadian government planned to give an official from Iran - a known state sponsor of terror and a member of the Axis of Evil - a look at the workings of the Advance Passenger Information database in August, 2003, little over a month since Kazemi's death had been confirmed as due to torture (more information under extended entry.) (Link from lfg.)
Stephan Hachemi has been steadfast in his quest to achieve justice for his mother and again renewed his call for Canada to take action against Iran.
Canada's record is dismal, though. Thus far it is Iran 5, Canada 0.
CBC has provided their timeline, and I have a slightly different (and admittedly incomplete) one in the extended entry.
more...
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Liberals are switching to the Conservatives:
Thay have had enough of lies, lies, lies, & etc.
John switched too · 9 hours ago
I talked ( the old fashioned way – without a keyboard ) to John the other day.
John has switched from the Liberals too. John’s a lawyer and doesn’t have a lot to say about why. Just that he’s disgusted with the corruption and wants the Liberals “sitting in opposition for a couple of terms”, or until they get their house cleaned up.
http://www.harperliberals.ca/stories
Switch now!!!
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Hopefully if that database had anything to do with the US, the US changed everything right after that - and stopped providing the Canadians with updates or what-have-you.
And completely OT, the Iraqi people react to Saddam's undies pic:
http://timblair.net/ee/index.php/weblog/comments/baghdad_giggles/
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Grewal-Murphy (Updated)
May 23 - Oh
course there's more about the attempt to bribe Grewal (
Grewal says he wanted to show Grits were dirty) and the contention that Grewal sought the bribe (
Grewal wouldn't take no for an answer in today's news.
I tend to deal with unwanted advances from persistent types a bit more decisively than Chief-of-staff Tim Murphy and Health Minister Ujjal Dosanjh: I refuse to meet with them or talk to them. Nothing says "No" like, well, "No!"
Having beer and pizza together says "Maybe," not "No" (but then I haven't dated in over 30 years, so maybe the rules have changed.)
I've lost track a bit: exactly where did the conversation(s) between Grewal and Murphy take place? I seem to remember that it was in Grewal's office, but can't find confirmation.
The refusal to release the tape raises some awkward questions; now, I can understand why there might be some hesitancy to turn the tape over to the RCMP (that's surely the saddest thing I ever wrote) but I should think it would be appropriate to turn over a copy of that tape or even (heh!) release it on the internet.
(Links via Neale News.)
13:08 - Keith has confirmed that eight minutes of the tape are available here for those who wish to hear the portion for themselves. [Note: every time I've tried to access it my computer crashes and thus I can't vouch for it personally but there are some, like Andrew Coyne and Keith, with whom I am more than willing to to on faith.]
Keith raises some interesting questions here about Grewal and a possible Liberian connection, and yes, I think it best if we simply go after the truth.
17:28 The Globe and Mail is also urging the tapes be released, and Kate has an interesting conjecture here as to why letting them dribble out slowly is a good strategy.
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the tape is on the internet, i think, try ctv's site, i think that is where I listened to it. or maybe london fog.
imho, the tape is too equivocal to prove who approached who. both of the principals come out looking bad, in my books.
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My mistake Debbye, only the 8 minutes of the tapes are available for download, at the following URL.
http://gopinion.com/breaking/
Apparently there are hours of tapes. I wish this story would go away.
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Thanks for the clarification, Keith; I had trouble downloading the darned thing (computer kept crashing) so was going on what others said about there being only 8 minutes available online. But I think I will post the link and hope other have better luck.
I'm not sure it can go away; were Grewal a law enforcement official he would look bad, but I'm not sure he can be charged for entrapment as he was acting as a, um, not law enforcement official.
By the way, I loved a comment you made on another blog about anger management, and hope you failed the course ;-)
Posted by: Debbye at May 23, 2005 01:06 PM (3qqx5)
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paulmartintime.ca is frozen with no new activity since May 2004. The host was threatened with a lawsuit by Martin. The fear is working.
andrewcoyne.com has suffered the same fate. Posting a few words which seem stilted/fearful even.
The Dark Side controls Canada's people.
RIP, Canada.
Posted by: maz2 at May 23, 2005 01:31 PM (F2mGL)
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George Orwell: 1984
"... imagine a boot stamping on a human face-- for ever."
In Zimbabwe:
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Sun Media (Canada) ^ | 2005-05-23 | Michael Hartnack
HARARE, Zimbabwe (A) - Paramilitary units armed with batons, riot shields and tear gas patrolled main roads in Harare Monday as police warned they would not tolerate protests against their crackdown on street trading - the only livelihood for thousands of poor township dwellers. Police Chief Superintendent Oliver Mandipaka said 9,653 people were arrested in the five-day blitz on street vendors, flea market stalls and other informal businesses. He said people were preparing to demonstrate but that police were ready and commuter minibuses were prevented from entering the city centre. Angry demonstrators clashed with police over the weekend in the...
In Canada: The boot on the blogger's face:
andrewcoyne.com
paulmartintime.ca
Who is next?
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My oldest son has often complained that the problem with Americans is that we often communicate by what we
don't say. Maybe he's right; it's one of those things that I can't see because I'm too close.
So,
maz2, maybe you're looking at this thing too squarely: if Coyne is relying on readers to read between the lines then so be it - personally, I found his recent post
title to speak volumes more than the post itself.
We're going to see people - like the folks at Paul Martin Times - buckle under, but what of it?
We.Keep.Fighting.
For all the talk about "tipping points" I have yet to see anyone actually recognize one until after it happens ... those of us in the trenches just stick it out, with steely determination, and see the job through (yeah, and then the twitty analysts come after and irritate the heck out of us. Sigh. We ignore them.)
If someone stuck in Toronto can say that, so can you.
Keep the faith. The most serious accusation against the Libranos may well be that they
lost the faith -- faith in the people, in the decency and intregrity of the Canadian people, but that doesn't mean you have to do so also.
Hang in there. I would really miss your comments here, at Kate's, and at the Shotgun. Really.
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I would like to believe that AC's position & reputation, and the need to maintain them, have played a part in his decision to remove comments. That being said, I will miss that as I learned a great deal from the exchange of ideas.
But I can't see where Kate's business (which appears to be custom paint jobs and breeding dogs) could be threatened by the libs (although I hope her tax records are well-kept as a 'surprise' audit could be in the cards). Debbye I have no idea whether your professional position could be damaged either. I guess what I'm saying is we need to count on people that are as immune as possible to keep up the good work.
Two days after crying "the sky is falling" re AC's site, I find it interesting that (a) I'm not even VAGUELY embarassed by my immediate assumption of the worst and (b) neither is anyone giving me grief over same. In fact, debbye you even made a similar remark in your posting of yesterday.
We are in trying times and it's hard to maintain hope when doors seem to close around us. I'm holding out hope for a surprise in Labrador - go check out the comments from bic at CQ, very encouraging.
Posted by: Candace at May 23, 2005 03:35 PM (R7nd+)
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CTV likely got the original recording from Daddy; Bell Canada..
Not that CTV doesn't do what it is told.. protect Bell's stock price.. protect Bell's stock price.. force Quebec to stay in Canada.. force Quebec to stay in Canada.. make those suckers in Ontario pay.. make those suckers in Ontario pay..
Posted by: Brian Walsh at May 23, 2005 05:12 PM (vAI+5)
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Candace, I too referenced Chicken Little in my emails when I was trying to figure out what was up with Coyne! But now that, in Coyne's words, there are no rules, how can we not assume the worst?
Hang in there. There will be setbacks and victories, and only time will sort out which is which.
But a forum such as Coyne offered is definitely needed.
Brian, slow down a bit. CTV could also have gotten the tape (or at least the 8 minutes) at the same place many of you heard it.
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It is pretty apparent from looking at A.Coyne's reporting that he has not been intimidated by the Liberal juggernaut which seems to have taken most of his fellow professionals hostage.
He has, however, been sued, and so has his newspaper. That means that he has some short-term legal responsibilities which none of the people who have posted at his site share with him, encouraging words aside.
It was nice of him to let people use his cachet and his reputation to enjoy themselves, but pretty soon the heady rum of self-pleasure becomes a non-cooperative stink. It's like a house party that's open to anybody; eventually, nobody has a clue who the host is, and illegal acts start to take place, and you have to put down the carrot sticks and become a bouncer.
Which brings me to the thread which he referred to as being odious to him, and which he felt he needed to edit out:
No sensible person who has observed the deteriorating political scene vis-a-vis Gomery and, oh, say, lawsuits against journalists and such should discount the possibility that Liberal insiders might find that it benefits their cause to drop in on AC's open web sit and post things which are actionable. Would anyone here be suprised?
At it's best his comments sections was a chance for Canadians to learn from and understand each other, and it was nice of AC to have allowed such interesting discourse to go on under the banner of his name. But the deterioration in tone and the repeated posting of cryptic inane slandererous thread-deaf comments every two minutes by the same people were beginning to predominate. I don't really blame him for putting down the carrot sticks and picking up the hose.
And besides, when you consider the times we live in, and his legacy as a journalist, he's got some important work to do.
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debbye, the Liberia reference is actually from a commenter on my Thin Grewal post.
Thanks for the link too, by the way! Always helpful, in order to get back into Marsupia. (I slipped back into Rodentia recently in the TTLB ecosytem
)
Cheers.
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Yes, I thought that very same thing EB . It would seem fitting, given the character of at least some Martinites, to post smut and then threaten lawyer persuit.
You can back track email by using properties on the header, but posts don't leave much in the way of fingerprints. Damn those sneaky l.. gentlemen of the commons. TonyGuitar
Posted by: TonyGuitar at May 23, 2005 10:58 PM (rmMzv)
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Debbye, I have emailed you a copy of the Grewal tape.
Posted by: Ed Minchau at May 24, 2005 12:59 AM (pPVQ0)
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