1 As a black male, I've always found Condoleezza as being one absolutely stunning black woman. I'm thrilled that people are finally taking notice.

2 Okay, this has to be a big right-wing joke... I've heard all over Fox News about how Condoleeza would make a great presidential candidate... That has to be the dumbest thing I've ever heard OR the Right Wing is so unbelievably confident in themselves that they would run Willie Horton for Vice President. 1) Condoleeza Rice is Black and Female - Do you really think that the South will vote so overwhelmingly as they did for George Bush when faced with the possibility of a BLACK WOMAN! 2) SHE'S UNMARRIED!!! This cannot be underestimated. The last time there was an unmarried president was when??? A long fucking time ago. Not to mention Condoleeza Rice is heavily speculated to be a lesbian... Is the right-wing that confident that they can just call the left "racist homophobes" when they attack Rice's record? This is so unbelievably hilarious that I can't help but think this is really an elaborate joke. ... oh yeah. Let's not forget the memo thing, which WILL come back.... Not to mention the fuck up that is Iraq which WILL come up... Again... hilarious.... I applaud.

3 And in advance, NO I AM NOT A RACIST HOMOPHOBE. THE RIGHT-WING ARE RACIST HOMOPHOBES!!!! This is like calling the left homophobes for attacking jeff Gannon at all... It just isn't true. YOU are the party of the people that would still have jim crow if you could. (and yes I know the Republicans freed the slaves... BUT, the South which was the backbone of the party back then switched sides when the issue of civil rights came up in the 60s...) Let's also not forget that Condoleeze Rice does not represent even a small portion of the black population of America... She is rich and ultra-conservative... NOT the woman of the ghetto. Rafer

4 Aside from you using a pseudonym (Rafer Alston is a basketball player, and I highly doubt you are the same individual), you bring absolutely no coherent content to the table sir. I would be lowering my standards to converse with a person of your low level. Good day, sir.

5 HAHAHA BRILLIANT! That's exactly what I predicted. I clearly know the facts better than you. I clear have a better grasp of human reason and your simplistic arguments like "the left is petty" and "you are not coherent" just can't cut it! Wise up Rafer. Read up on the facts and come back to tell me you realize you were wrong. I won't rub it in. I'll just wink and tell you I told you so. Rafer P.S. Of course I know who Rafer Alston is you dummy. That's why I picked the name, and that's why you did too. (reason being: I highly doubt your own name is Rafer... No conservative in the history of the world has been named Rafer.)

6 You know "Rafer Alston" just has to be on Karl Rove's payroll cuz I cannot visualize a real Democrat writing such a lame argument. You are blowing your cover "Rafer Alston", try to not be so obvious. Heh. If anyone really believes that the US South will not vote for Condi, then I'd suggest the Democrats prepare themselves mentally for at least another 12 more years of Republican presidents (4 more years of Bush, then 8 years of Condi, then maybe 8 more years of (jeb) Bush). Projecting your prejudices on others just doesn't make it so. But thanks for coming out. Wasn't some of the lamest questioning in Condi confirmation hearing coming from former Grand Kleagle of the KKK, Democratic Senator Robert Byrd? Oh man...talk about historical irony. God is an iron. Of course, what do I know (I live in Canada so I don't have a horse in this race). Democracy needs at least two functioning parties. The Republicans may be arrogant, but the Democrats are clearly insane. And they don't seem to be getting any less insane with time. Time heals all wounds.

7 Rafer, I think that everyone has noticed what a stunning woman Dr. Rice is, they just couldn't find a PC way of saying so! I'm with you Warren - the Democrats seem determined to self-destruct. We've seen parties collapse before and new ones emerge so it doesn't spell doom and tyranny, but it is frustrating. Far too many Canadians don't get us. They never will get us. Instead of listening to what we say and observe what we do, they deconstruct and re-arrange everything to fit their own mental image. I see the South voting for Dr. Rice because they'll look at her record, not her colour. Canadians haven't reached that level yet because they can't deal when their paternalistic stereotypes don't fit the person. But ultimately all that really matters is that Americans "get" Americans and that we cheer heartily to have such an incredible a woman as Dr. Rice in our country's leadership. And I am seriously considering buying those boots and that coat.

8 Saying Southerners wouldn't vote for Condie because she's an Unmarried, Black, Woman is one of the most styereotypical, predjudicial, and generallly bolloxed things I've heard in a while - it should be ammended to: "Southerners wouldn't vote for Condie if she was a Liberal Woman against the 2nd Amendment." That might have a shred of accuracy.

9 Warren, Again, you ignored the main points of my argument which I stand by, and you simply attacked my character.. basically calling me exactly what I said you would in the second post. Read it and weep. And seriously? You're Rafer aren't you? Did you just change your name because I told you to e-mail me?.... again, it's fresnorafer@hotmail.com if you want to fess up without me calling you out in here. ------- I am starting to believe that the Republicans can get away with running Condoleeza Rice... I guess what I should be saying is that if the Democrats ran her, she wouldn't have a hope in hell. The GOP party machine just seems so overwhelming powerful in the media and in the get out the vote campaign. Calling me a racist homophobe, I already addressed that issue. I live near Church street in Toronto for Christ Sake... If I hated gays, there isn't a worse place for me to be. In reality, Rice doesn't have a hope in hell of becomming president, for all the reasons I addressed plus her incompetence as a Kissinger-like "realist" (which I might have addressed, can't remember).

10 Debbye, please for god sake don't wear those boots and that coat... ---------- Again with your insults of Canada? Why the fuck are you here? If you really hate it so much and things are so much better in the U.S., why can't you afford to live there? As for the insults about Canada "NOT GETTING" the U.S.... I think about 95% of the civilized/developed world doesn't "get" you guys b/c you are out of line. Most of the 1st world has moved past petty nationalism and relgious dogmatism. And no, you are not above them because you belong to the greatest economic/military power in the world. That part isn't your fault. Let's face it, the South represents the most backward elements of America, where all the big intelligent industry is primarily on the coasts. (or at least educates the people moving south to take the best jobs) That's where all of America's advancements have been made. Let us not forget the finest economic period for the South, when they were actually ahead, was when you guys had a whole bunch of free labour. And no, you do not represent the majority of Americans, you just have disproportionate power in the electorate... Not to mention Bush had the 9/11 fear on his side. RAFER ALSTON, FOR TWO!

11 I would appreciate it if you please chose a differnent handle. I refuse to talk to someone who claims to be my mother, or claims to be a basketball player with the same name as I. On a side note, considering you have spent a great deal trying to flush out the opinions of the "right", here on this fantastic blog, I am wondering if you have a site of your own that gets trolled by right wingers. I am willing to bet you don't. Those in the "right" don't go out of there way trying to puncture holes in other's ideologies, they just work on improving their own.

12 How's that Mr. Alston, I changed my name. I'm going to keep using this until you provide an argument that I can't rebut and again prove that in fact I AM your mother, intellectually speaking. No I don't have a left wing website because I'm not a left wing nutjob... And you're wrong on the fact that right-wingers like you don't troll... you simply don't read differnet viewpoints. There IS a difference. Warren and Rafer's Mother... lactating the truth for 5 straight season with the Toronto Argonauts of the Canadian lacrosse league

13 My sympathies are with you Rafer, but if Debbye is willing to put up with it and you can stand it, I think his/her behavior and remarks are great advertising for "sophisticated, tolerant" Canada. Not the BS that Canadians of his ilk tell each other in their censored media, but the paradox of their talk versus their walk. Multiple avatars, hiding behind fake email addresses, all testimonials to that peculiar brand of Canadian courage.

14 Good response Mikem! Avoid the details and stick to the character attacks... American politics at its finest and a beacon of democracy for the world to follow!

15 Avoid the details?? Contained in your posts? Like this one above?? "How's that Mr. Alston, I changed my name. I'm going to keep using this until you provide an argument that I can't rebut and again prove that in fact I AM your mother, intellectually speaking. No I don't have a left wing website because I'm not a left wing nutjob... And you're wrong on the fact that right-wingers like you don't troll... you simply don't read differnet viewpoints. There IS a difference. Warren and Rafer's Mother... lactating the truth for 5 straight season with the Toronto Argonauts of the Canadian lacrosse league" This is one of the saddest exchanges I've ever had. You put up this pathetic juvenile post, talking about someone's mom, saying silly things about yourself and your own mom, and then whine like a child that no one treats you like an adult. Grow up.

16 I said this on the other threat and I'll restate it here: Don't use Anyone's Mom as your handle - you can make your points without being abusive to other commenters. If I have to delete (or edit) comments in order to end this practice I will do so. I'm sorry Rafer and Warren for not catching up to this latest trend sooner and stopping it.

17 WRT Condi as a presidential candidate...I am coming to the conclusion as a white Southerner, that if any female has a chance of becoming president, Condi does. Conservative White Southern Men who vote will vote for her because the Republican tent is definitely much bigger than the Democrat tent and they will support their candidate. I belong to neither party, and I have recently come to realise that the Republicans are in fact a bigger tent. Bush has demonstrated that he can give real cabinet power to minorities and women without it having to be the traditionally "soft" departments like Housing and Education. Ok, Clinton had Albright, but did he have any significant Black cabinet members? (Vernon Jordan doesn't count.) And, damn, she does look hot in those boots ;-)!