1 Tim Horton, one of many hockey players to die or kill friends or team mates in the crash of an expensive car. Should the HHOF have a special section for this kind of dubious achievement? Just askin'

2 Tim Horton, Allan Stanley, Bobby Baun and Carl Brewer on defence. Not bad at all.

3 Actually I believe he died in a car crash, not on the QEW, but at the end of Scott Street in St. Catharines Ontario, the street I lived on as a kid. It is right beside the QEW. I also believe that he was at the time the subject of a high speed police pursuit, perhaps alcohol related, but it was a long time ago.

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5 Um, the point of the post was supposed to be that Toronto police officers, on horseback, rode through a Tim Horton's drive-through in rotten weather. In my own small way (and with severely limited time available) I was trying to support Toronto's police force which is now engaged in a contract dispute but my brilliant segue was ruined by my stupid browser (IE, of course) that wouldn't let me post above it about the police action and I had to run for the stupid bus instead of completing the pass. I will gladly plead ignorance about Tim Horton! I arrived in Canada after his death and it took awhile before I learned that hockey was not "roller derby on ice." Larry is probably right about the actual place of death; legend has put it on the QEW (Mark is all about The Legends of Hockey and Baseball) but I've driven in that region both in town and on the QEW in February and you don't need to be either drunk or in a police chase to run into problems. There was that bit of black ice near Stoney Creek ... but I digress. But ignorant or no, I also had a fascination for baseball manager Billy Martin, who too lived hard and died hard. Rock'em sock'em sports players are still loved and admired, maybe because they breathe guts and verve in our tidy, well-ordered little lives?